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Loss of electricity

lcochran
so last weekend i went to ride my bike(1975 Cb750F) and when i turned the ignition key, i got no indicator lights/power. As i assumed the battery had died, i checked the battery(full charge). tried again later and it cranked right up, ran it for a while, shut it off to put on riding clothes, went to start it back up and the same thing happened, no indicator lights/power. Have any of yall had this problem before? or do any of you have suggestions on where to start tracing the short. help me out. i wanna go ride soon!
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Re: Loss of electricity

LukeM
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Hmm.  Ran into a similar problem with a friend's CB550 a couple of weeks ago.  Was EVERYthing dead?  No lights, no indicators, no horn, no click on the starter, nothing? And it started working shortly afterward without changing or doing anything?  Could be a temporary loss of ground for your system (possible negative battery cable to chassis).  Try tapping on the frame where connections are made (with the key on) and see if it wakes up.  The next thing to check would be around the ignition key. Possibly it's dirty inside, and contacts aren't closing. Check the connector from the ignition keyswitch into the harness. In the case of the CB550, it was the main ground for the wiring harness to the frame.  By jiggling the harness, we found the problem, fixed it, and got it running shortly thereafter.

Check out the wiring diagram in the factory manual, and start tracing down stuff with a voltmeter.  You can either start at the battery end, and trace forward, or pick something like the headlight or oil pressure light, and track back from there.

Advice: use a oil-less or greaseless contact cleaner when dealing with switches.  Oil just draws more dirt into the switch. Spray a small amount on your hand and check it after it dries.  If it's oily, don't use it on switches.  The best stuff I've seen is called Cramolin and comes in a spray can. A little goes a very long way. It cleans connections, and lays down a protective layer that resists corrosion.  These 30 YO bikes are getting old enough that corrosion will start to set in, regardless of how weatherproof the connections are.  

I hope this helps.  Let us know how it turns out.
Luke M
Used to have a 1979 CB750L, sold it as a parts bike, now riding a slightly modified 1984 VT700C. Network/Field Engineer. Central OH, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe.
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RE: Loss of electricity

lcochran

Yeah I lost everything, then it started up ran for a while, then lost everything again. Ill check it out.  Thanks a bunch.

Ill keep ya updated

 

Leston Cochran

Manufacturing-Engineer Co-op

Rheem Manufacturing Company

2600 Gunter Park Drive East

Montgomery, AL 36109-1413

P: 334-213-3791

 

            

 

From: LukeM [via Honda CB750'S] [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:05 AM
To: Leston Cochran
Subject: Re: Loss of electricity

 

Hmm.  Ran into a similar problem with a friend's CB550 a couple of weeks ago.  Was EVERYthing dead?  No lights, no indicators, no horn, no click on the starter, nothing? And it started working shortly afterward without changing or doing anything?  Could be a temporary loss of ground for your system (possible negative battery cable to chassis).  Try tapping on the frame where connections are made (with the key on) and see if it wakes up.  The next thing to check would be around the ignition key. Possibly it's dirty inside, and contacts aren't closing. Check the connector from the ignition keyswitch into the harness. In the case of the CB550, it was the main ground for the wiring harness to the frame.  By jiggling the harness, we found the problem, fixed it, and got it running shortly thereafter.

Check out the wiring diagram in the factory manual, and start tracing down stuff with a voltmeter.  You can either start at the battery end, and trace forward, or pick something like the headlight or oil pressure light, and track back from there.

Advice: use a oil-less or greaseless contact cleaner when dealing with switches.  Oil just draws more dirt into the switch. Spray a small amount on your hand and check it after it dries.  If it's oily, don't use it on switches.  The best stuff I've seen is called Cramolin and comes in a spray can. A little goes a very long way. It cleans connections, and lays down a protective layer that resists corrosion.  These 30 YO bikes are getting old enough that corrosion will start to set in, regardless of how weatherproof the connections are.  

I hope this helps.  Let us know how it turns out.
Luke M

Back on 2 wheels after a 30+ hiatus. It's still fun, and just as scary as before.  I like it.