NO1 CYLINDER Fowling Plug fix !! But could be on any CYLINDER

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NO1 CYLINDER Fowling Plug fix !! But could be on any CYLINDER

oz750
HI all , I have been looking for a fix to this problem for nearly a year . The problem was , the Number 1 cylinder was fowling the plug , running very Black and sooty , and the other 3 were running fine . I did all the usual checks , but it took a new mechanic [ old school ] to find the cause . I had just got him to fit a Dyna Electronic ignition , check valve clearances , and give the carbs the once over [ digital Vacum Guage ] . He said he couldn't think of any reason for the sooty plug , and I was just wheeling my bike out of his shop and he said hold up a minute and he screwed out the air mixture screw out of carb no 1 . He found that the end of the mixture screw had snapped off , due to being screwed in too far and hard  . So I rode home in torrential rain a very very happy man , with the task of getting the broken tip out the carby in front of me . I removed the mixture screw when I got home and  I looked down the mixture hole where the screw had been and could see the broken tip in the bottom of the hole . I removed the airbox and found I could get a small flat screw driver in the passage that led to the airscrew hole from the back of the carb . It also gave access to the tip of my high pressure air nozzel . I tried blowing it out , no good , also tried to pry it out carefully with the small screw driver , but where the problem lies here is that the tip sits in a recess that goes past the vent tube that I could get the screw driver in . I them got out my Dremel and used 3 small [ bigger each time ] drill bits and very very carefully drilled the top of the brass broken tip . After a nerve wracking few minutes the broken tip just came loose and I was able to blow it out with compressed air out the Mixture screw hole . No metal fragments can go in your engine as long as you use compressed air to keep blowing the brass fillings out from the back of the carb . I installed a new mixture screw , set it the same as the other carbs and the bike is running better than it ever has . No more plug fowling , hesitating as I throttle on , running great at last . I noticed that there were others here with the same problem and they also were unable to find the cause .  

The pics show the broken mixture screw and a complete one , the hole at the back of the carb , where I inserted the air nozel and the airmixture screw in place . Hope this really helps some of you here out , also let me know if you had found the same problem .
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brcree
  Wow....this is why this forum is so great......I'm not haven this problem yet, but any old school knowledge is great!..Thanks for this info!
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Re-run
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I have never heard of that issue! Someone must have really cranked on that screw to break it like that. Wow
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dave Esch
I purchased my 76 750k last spring and got a great 1st season out of it. I replaced my #1 spark plug 3 times though. It never ran rough, problem was all start-up. I noticed a miss when the engine was cold for about 45 seconds. Motor would then pop and run fine. A week later it would miss for about a minute and a half. Than 3 minutes, etc. Finally it wouldn't pop and run well at all. It is always #1. An old-school mechanic much like yours informed me the cause was my short exhaust pipe letting cool air hit my exhaust valves after shut-down. So I just kept changing the plug. Since my bike is torn apart at the present, it is definitely worth checking the screw. Thanks for the "tip". Lol, pun intended.
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CB750 Winger
Dave, I had a heck of a time getting my #1 to fire, replaced everything to do with fuel delivery and electrical, even a lot of back and forth with rerun (and he was a great deal of help regardless) but here's the deal: after having the carbs off several times, the casting of the carb that the main jet screws into was cracked. Can't believe I didn't notice that but slopped JB Weld all over it and the bike runs like new. Nice looking site, I haven't had much time and been gone since the upgrade. Hope I can get on more often again.
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dave Esch
Winger, perhaps you would be so kind as to post a picture of your repair if you ever find the time to do so. It would be greatly appreciated. This site, I agree, has been of great value to me also.
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CB750 Winger
  Dave, I'll try to do that. It's running great now but I plan to pull off the float bowl one of these days to see how the JB Weld looks so I'll try to get a picture of it. Should be pretty easy being #1 carb. By the way, I also did #4 now that I think of it. #4 was starting a small crack too. With these bikes being the age they are can really be a challenge but sure is fun when you can get issues solved with all this great help here.  I guess I lost my profile being gone so long but I'll do that too. I have a '75 CB750 K5.     Paul