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Hoko
After reading this, http://www.carbibles.com/suspension_bible_bikes.html , I'm seriously considering installing steering dampers.
78 CB750F3 Super Sport
Austin, TX
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TOOLS1
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Do you have a steering control problem?
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1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
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Rarely have people had tankslappers on a CB, unless they made some sort of drastic change or have some other suspension problem.

Nothing is stopping you of course and it won't hurt anything.
The ride IS the adventure. The destination is just to get gas!
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Hoko
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TOOLS1 wrote
Do you have a steering control problem?
TOOLS
No problem, I just read this and want to avoid such a thing if I hit a big pothole.
  "The problem comes when you hit a sufficiently large bump. The front suspension compresses, the wheelbase of the bike gets shorter and suddenly, what was on the cusp of driveability becomes totally unstable. The front wheel will tilt to one side or another and then the suspension returns to its normal length. As it does this, it sets up a standing-wave in the chassis of the bike which, because of the gyroscopic forces generated by the front wheel, forces the steering over the other way. Now the suspension geometry and gyroscopic force of the spinning wheel together try to straighten the front wheel again. At this point, the bike is in a headshaker - the head of the bike is being shaken back and forth by a rapidly oscillating front wheel. There are ways and means out of this, but if you don't tackle it quickly, things will rapidly go downhill. The headshaker will get more and more violent because now, the wheel starts to slam back and forth from one side to the other. The handlebars will get ripped out of your hands and the steering will go from lock to lock very quickly, slapping the handlebars against the tank of the bike - hence tankslapper. The inevitable outcome of this is normally a highside where the bike will throw you off sideways and upwards. Once you're off, the suspension unloads, the bike settles down, and momentum will take its course as the bike drives off in a straight line without you. This is the reason for steering dampers, and one of the reasons the Suzuki TL 1000S was recalled within weeks of being put in the showrooms - it went into vicious tankslappers without any provocation."

 
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If you hit a pothole that big, you will have bigger problems then the front end starting to wobble.
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Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Hoko
TOOLS1 wrote
If you hit a pothole that big, you will have bigger problems then the front end starting to wobble.
TOOLS
I guess it all comes back to keeping my eyes on the road doesn't it?
78 CB750F3 Super Sport
Austin, TX