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Stripped camshaft cap for the valve cover bolt

rij1
I noticed that oil was leaking from my valve cover and I went to tighten the bolt and it would just turn.
Turns out that the threaded hole on the exhaust camshaft cap is threadless. How can I repair this without replacing the cam cap?
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4-1 Exhaust with baffle
Stock intake air box
Slow-speed jet #35
Primary main jet #68
Secondary main jet #105
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Heli-coil.
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rij1
Ok, I got the helicoil for my 6-1mm bolt.
I seen that the kit needs a 1/4 inch drill bit. I don't know what size tap I need. I used a 7mm-1 to tap a piece of metal to make sure it works. the helicoil didn't thread into it. Does anyone know what size tap bit I need?
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1982 Honda DOHC CB750F Supersport
4-1 Exhaust with baffle
Stock intake air box
Slow-speed jet #35
Primary main jet #68
Secondary main jet #105
Ventura, California
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TOOLS1
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The kit should come with a special tap for the heli-coil thread.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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rij1
I only got the helicoils. So the kit comes with a special tap and I cant buy a tap that will work?
      My Bike Information
1982 Honda DOHC CB750F Supersport
4-1 Exhaust with baffle
Stock intake air box
Slow-speed jet #35
Primary main jet #68
Secondary main jet #105
Ventura, California
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rij1
I got it fixed.

 I used a piece of metal I had as practice. I drilled out the hole with a 17/64 drill bit and tapped with a 5/16-24 and inserted 6-1mm helicoil inserts. I screwed in a bolt and it went in like normal and I tightened it down and torqued it down a good amount and it held.

 So I did the same thing with the cam cap but I put 2 helicoils instead of 1 and it worked. I wouldn't do this with a bolt that required high torque unless I had the kit for it but this worked for lighter torqueing use.
      My Bike Information
1982 Honda DOHC CB750F Supersport
4-1 Exhaust with baffle
Stock intake air box
Slow-speed jet #35
Primary main jet #68
Secondary main jet #105
Ventura, California
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Griffin
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So I know this is an old thread but I have the same problem.  One of the threads are stripped on a cam holder.  It's the very front left one on a 1980 DOHC cb750.

Can anyone recommend a helicoil kit to use for this repair?  Will this one work http://www.amazon.com/StarSide-Helicoil-Thread-Repair-Recoil/dp/B018TRQO4G

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That one should do just fine. However I would like to point out that you rarely need to drill the hole larger when doing the M6X1.00 helicoil in aluminum. I just take the tap and go to it.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Griffin

Awesome thank you and great tip! I was going to use a drill press but it sound like that's not necessary. Someone shoved a standard, slightly larger bolt in there. I ordered the proper bolt, replacement seals, and new cam cover gasket. Should be good as new soon.

On Apr 5, 2016 5:36 PM, "TOOLS1 [via Honda CB750'S]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
That one should do just fine. However I would like to point out that you rarely need to drill the hole larger when doing the M6X1.00 helicoil in aluminum. I just take the tap and go to it.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)



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These things are famous for stripping. Nothing more irritating than getting this fixed, cleaning everything up, finaggling the valve cover back on to position with it's fiddly gasket.... and then you strip another buttoning things up.

I'd consider going ahead and heli-coil'ing all of the cam caps while you're already inside. They really are soft.
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Griffin

You're probably right. It's a lot easier with the cams out. I should do it now. Thinking about metal from the tap getting into the engine stresses me out.

On Apr 6, 2016 3:02 PM, "shinyribs [via Honda CB750'S]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
These things are famous for stripping. Nothing more irritating than getting this fixed, cleaning everything up, finaggling the valve cover back on to position with it's fiddly gasket.... and then you strip another buttoning things up.

I'd consider going ahead and heli-coil'ing all of the cam caps while you're already inside. They really are soft.
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