'81 CB750F trying to get it road ready.

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Chicago Ted
Alright, I was able to get the wrench, along with some PB Blaster, and that got the bolt covering my starter motor off. I took off the cover, and disconnected the line to the oil signal sender unit. I took off all the old frayed insulation around the wire, and slipped on the new heat shrink tubing. However, it looks like the light is staying on, with the wire totally insulated, and still disconnected from the sender. Should that be the case, or is it still shorting to ground somewhere near the starter motor, where I can not see so well? Should it need to be connected to a functioning sending switch for the light to be off? I appreciate all of your helpful advice so far.



On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:13 AM, TOOLS1 [via Honda CB750'S] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Don't you have a Sears store near you? You can also get Craftsman tools (my favorite) at K-mart, and Ace stores. Also Home Depot (Husky), and Lowe's (Cobalt) has some decent tools.
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Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
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1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-K X 2
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)



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If that wire is disconnected, that light should be off. You still have a short somewhere.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Chicago Ted
Well, short of dropping my carbs and removing my starter motor to poke around, where/how should I look for it? What route does this wire take through the machine?


On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 10:26 PM, TOOLS1 [via Honda CB750'S] <[hidden email]> wrote:
If that wire is disconnected, that light should be off. You still have a short somewhere.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity. This would just defeat the whole purpose.. "ninadm"

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-K X 2
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)



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I am not sure of what color the wire is, since I do not have much experience with the DOHC bikes. However if you look on the home page here you will find free downloads of the manuals for your bike, and there is wiring diagrams in it that should help. However the wire should go down into the engine, and come out the back with a bundle of wires. Find it there, and disconnect it at the connection where it joins the wires on the frame bundle.  If the light goes out, the short is in the engine bundle. If it still stays on, it is in the frame bundle.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Chicago Ted
Hey gang. I decided to do some tinkering, because having a bike that worked just fine as it was was getting boring, I suppose. I decided to take apart the front end, replace the fork seals and dust covers, change the fork oil, and change the tires. As is constantly the theme with this machine, I think I might be the first person to actually look at these parts in several decades. So, unsurprisingly, It looks like I will need more than just new oil seals and dust covers. I already ordered new circlips, because those are rusty, and I just had a bear of a time getting one out after the eyes broke off. My trick was to buy a set of machinist's picks, by the way. I am looking at some exploded diagrams now, and I realized that there is an entire part that I was about to overlook, because I had only seen it come off as rusty remnants. This is the backup plate, http://www.cmsnl.com/products/product_quickview.php?partcode=51413461003. It looks like this website has them for sale, but I am not really keen to pay for shipping all the way from the UK. Does anyone else know where I might find this part? Is it even necessary? 


On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:25 PM, TOOLS1 [via Honda CB750'S] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am not sure of what color the wire is, since I do not have much experience with the DOHC bikes. However if you look on the home page here you will find free downloads of the manuals for your bike, and there is wiring diagrams in it that should help. However the wire should go down into the engine, and come out the back with a bundle of wires. Find it there, and disconnect it at the connection where it joins the wires on the frame bundle.  If the light goes out, the short is in the engine bundle. If it still stays on, it is in the frame bundle.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity. This would just defeat the whole purpose.. "ninadm"

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-K X 2
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)



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Have you checked with Honda? They should still have it. If not they can use their parts locator to find them.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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I recently got back up plates, bushings and seals from the local dealership for an 81 Oldwing.  I would try local dealerships before I ordered overseas.
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Chicago Ted
So, this is an instance where I have some egg on my face. I decided to go ahead and just reinstall my old backup rings with my new oil seals. I should have hesitated when I saw that one ring was badly warped. To get it in, I had to hammer it into place with a mallet. Now, the real bonehead move, was that I installed all of these components into my fork slider, BEFORE putting the slider on the fork, over the bushings. I quickly realized that that would not work, and proceeded to get the circlips BACK out, and pry my seals out as well. However, unsurprisingly, that metal backup ring is not willing to come out. I have tried boiling the tube there, hoping to make it warmer, but that did not make it easier.

I have already ordered two new rings, as I ought to have done initially. This means that I am willing to destroy this ring to get it out. Do you guys have any suggestions? I was considering whipping out my dremmel and carefully cutting at it, allowing it to fail and bend out. My fallback plan it to take it to a machinist, to have it milled or lathed out of there.


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Beekeeper [via Honda CB750'S] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I recently got back up plates, bushings and seals from the local dealership for an 81 Oldwing.  I would try local dealerships before I ordered overseas.


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