Building a web site??????

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Building a web site??????

TOOLS1
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The Kansas City Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club is needing a web site. We are looking, for someone to build it, for us. I know there are some talented guys on here, and if any of, you would be interested in doing this, please let me know.
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I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
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1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
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Daddyman
Go to webs.com its so easy to do your self, really man you can do it!
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Piute
YOU CAN DO IT MAN TOOL man

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TOOLS1
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We are wanting something a little nicer then one of those template jobs. Also I know if I tried to do something like that I would hurt myself.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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mikefootusa
What the matter Tools?  No fun if you don't get your hands dirty?...lol
In 1972 I had to make a choice...quit riding...or quit drinking.  God says it's safe to get back in the saddle now...at least I'm still alive...and feel more alive with the wind in my face!  Now riding "Helen Black"...1982  CB750SC.
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cityslicker
I have a few buddies that do web design, I could send you their contact numbers. pm me if you would like me too. They do not work for free. Or even cheap, but they are goood at what they do. God bless em, because web design sucks. It's a pain in the ass, you couldn't pay me enough to do that shit.
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Re-run
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An option might be to check out simplemachinesforum  http://www.simplemachines.org/
They have templates and such a but a number of them.
They do not host it though so you need to either have your own little server with static IP or have someone host it for you but it would be relatively cheap.
The ride IS the adventure. The destination is just to get gas!
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sgtslag
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I understand your desire for a professional web site, but farming it out means you lose one hell of a lot of control.  Every update/change, is $$$ out of your pocket, not to mention the time delays in getting it accomplished.

If you want a simple site, displaying relatively static information, it is not too difficult to create with a WISIWIG editor.  I still use Adobe Pagemill 3.0, as I don't need anything complex, or interactive, beyond e-mail links for folks to contact me.  All of that active page stuff, may sound good, but, crap, it is not that difficult to copy/paste (occasionally, you will need to edit HTML, directly, as well, so Adobe Pagemill 3.0 works quite well).  Stay away from frames -- they are of the Devil.  

All things considered, if you farm it out, you will find it bleeds money, and you will lose a very great amount of control over it.  If you want a forum, they are largely automated for you, once they are set up, and configured (you likely know that already, but I wanted to cover the bases, just in case).  A forum can be integrated within your site, if need be, or it can be a stand-alone.

If you farm it out to a college kid, they may start out doing a great job, but eventually, they will move on, and you may be left in a lurch.  I've seen folks hire a college student, who did fantastic work, until they moved on with their lives, leaving the web site owners holding the (empty) bag, not being able to make changes, or not being able to hand it off to anyone who knew what the kid did, or how to edit it.

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First, determine what exactly you want out of your web site:  forum, user input/posting capability beyond a forum, or relatively static information (simpler, easier).  Then shop around to see what it will cost to farm it out.  Then, ask your prospective editors what type of turn-around they can give you for updates, as well as pricing; be sure to view several of their active sites, to get an idea of what your's will look like -- many of them use templates, which are designed for a minimum monitor size (on larger displays, there will be a lot of unused, gutter space on both sides).  Finally, make a long, hard choice about it, and be sure to have a contract that gives you final control over it, including full copyright -- otherwise, you may find you really do not own it, they do, and you will be at their mercy...

Even if you do not want to create/edit/maintain it yourself, you still need to be educated about it, to avoid being taken by legal thievery.  Cheers!
1979 CB750K (sold, 2012, but not forgotten)
1983 Kawasaki 440 LTD Belt Drive (sold, 2011)
1993 Kawasaki Voyager XII
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seestheday
What sarge said.  This is coming from a guy who used to build back end systems for major websites.  Unless you're running a business I suggest using a template, or heck even a facebook page to post updates.
There really isn't a good middle ground between the free systems and a site you spends a few grand on for the reasons outlined by sarge.

For major companies, the cost to maintain their websites is in the millions annually.
1981 CB750K with 900 cams
90K KM's, rebuilt head, rebuilt carbs, upgraded valve stem seals

My wife's recipe website that I'm trying to help promote: Strawberries for supper. Yes, I am a lucky man.