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Having trouble with an oil change

jngeorges
Hey guys, My name's Joe I'm new to the board!! Glad to be here!!

I just picked up my first bike a 1976 CB750F!

I'll be starting a new topic in the Member's ride board soon!

For now I'm just kind of going over the whole bike seeing what she needs!


I was trying to do an oil change yesterday and ran into some trouble.

I was able to drain the oil from the reservoir and crankcase, but when i went to go remove the filter I noticed the exhaust pipes were blocking the cover and bolt.

I cant fit a wrench in there to get the bolt out and I doubt the whole thing would come out anyway with the pipes in  the way!

So my question is am I missing something?? or Do i just need to remove the pipes to do an oil change?

I appreciate any help you guys can give and I plan to be a frequent flyer on this board!
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TOOLS1
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Welcome to the forum. Unfortunately some aftermarket exhaust manufactures were more concerned about looks then maintenance. I assume that, you have some sort of an aftermarket exhaust. You will probably need to drop the exhaust.
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I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
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Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
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1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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LukeM
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A picture of the situation may help.  Sounds like you will need to drop the pipes.
Shouldn't be too bad to do.

Luke M
Used to have a 1979 CB750L, sold it as a parts bike, now riding a slightly modified 1984 VT700C. Network/Field Engineer. Central OH, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe.
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jngeorges

Here's a picture, best I could do. Also I've got some caliper questions should I start a new  thread or just ask it here?

On Nov 10, 2011 11:44 AM, "LukeM [via Honda CB750&apos;S]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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TOOLS1
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You should be able to get a 12mm box end wrench in there, and get it off. Never use an open end wrench on that bolt. They will round off very easy.
It would be easier to keep things straight if, you started another thread on the calipers.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Re: Having trouble with an oil change

sgtslag
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If you need to drop the exhaust, you should replace the gaskets between the pipes and the block.  They're a crush-type of gasket, made out of copper.  Not too expensive, and still available.

If you re-use the old gaskets, be wary of hot exhaust gas streams spewing out of the junctions if they don't mate properly.  These exhaust gases can be hot enough to ignite your pants...

Honestly, I would budget for a new exhaust system, which will allow free access to the oil filter, as well as the side, and center stands.  They are still available.  Prices run from $200-$400, for new.  Cheers!
1979 CB750K (sold, 2012, but not forgotten)
1983 Kawasaki 440 LTD Belt Drive (sold, 2011)
1993 Kawasaki Voyager XII
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Daddyman
Suck out the oil with a cheap transfer pump from Harbor Freight. $5-$10
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TOOLS1
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He has it drained. He just can not get the filter off.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Re: Having trouble with an oil change

jngeorges

All set now guys thanks for your help. I was able to just remove the one pipe that was in the way.

On Nov 10, 2011 4:40 PM, "TOOLS1 [via Honda CB750&apos;S]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
He has it drained. He just can not get the filter off.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750 A
1981 CB 750
1995 KZ 1000 P-14
1981 KZ 750
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1987 Honda TLR 200
1982 Honda XL 80
2005 Yamaha PW 50
South of Edan (Kansas City MO)



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LukeM
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Nicely done!  I will add my voice to that of TOOLS, recommending a new ring gasket for that exhaust pipe. Cheap insurance.  They are readily available, and I think you can get them in quantity.

Luke M
Used to have a 1979 CB750L, sold it as a parts bike, now riding a slightly modified 1984 VT700C. Network/Field Engineer. Central OH, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe.
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Daddyman
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Ops! Im dumb!! Guess I should read more! HAHA
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shinyribs
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Pay attention son!Wait...what were we talking about?
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LukeM
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Quoting one of the great minds of the last century.

Pay_Attention.wav

Luke M
Used to have a 1979 CB750L, sold it as a parts bike, now riding a slightly modified 1984 VT700C. Network/Field Engineer. Central OH, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe.
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shinyribs
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Whoa,thats kinda weird.I was trying to Foghorn it when i typed that!