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Looking for accurate gauges

shinyribs
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These stock gauges are fine for everyday riding,but the accuracy/dependability of them suck. Who knows of anything aftermarket that would be accurate? I have tested mine against GPS and they read fairly accurate,but the bouncing needles make it impossible to really know whats going on. I have cleaned and lubed,cleaned and lubed.I even put on a brand new speedo cable.Still have spastic needles. Any suggestions,please?

Watch these crazy things(excuse the horrible audio)

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Hmm. I don't see any wonkiness. Are you talking about the rpm gauge at idle? If so, I think that your motor really IS probably jumping a little at idle. I doubt it's the cable binding up or the gauge inaccuracies.
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Watch the speedo go backwards at 1:50
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Piute
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  Looked O.K. to me to may have been the vid only what i seen
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shinyribs
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Y'all dont see it? The speedo climbs to 70,falls back to 55 then jumps to 85 or so. Maybe i'm just seeing things...
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Piute
shinyribs wrote
Y'all dont see it? The speedo climbs to 70,falls back to 55 then jumps to 85 or so. Maybe i'm just seeing things...

  O.K. seen it that time since you pointed ,My guess and most likely your tire skipped / floated ,the ground is wet ,everyone of my bikes floated a lil at 90 and bad over 100 and holding in there.On dry ground.
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shinyribs
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Ok,here you go.You can hear the engine still climbing but see the tach fall
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               That don't look good

   Have to show that to paul in the morn ,I mean after work.
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I checked into modern, digital gauges, several years ago, for similar reasons.  They should all be very accurate, considering they're all computerized.  The snag I saw, was that they were all designed to hook into the bike's onboard computer -- 79's don't have computers...  The speed seemed to be easy, as it used a magnetic sensor, and a permanent magnet attached to the rim.  It was the tachometer that would have been difficult to interface.  They did not seem to offer anything like a pick-up coil, to clamp around a spark plug wire, to send pulses to the tachometer.

Meh!  I could be wrong, as it has been a few years since I looked into the topic.  They make several all-in-one units, with trip meters, mileage calculators, etc.  A few were quite fetching to look at, and the prices -- well, they were above my pay grade, for the most part, "But, Honey, it's a necessity -- the bike won't run without It!..."  Duck and run for cover!

In the end, I just decided to live with the jumping needles, watching long enough (on a straight-away) to see the upper, and lower, swing limits, then I would calculate the middle, in my head, and go with that.  YMMV.  Cheers!
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LukeM
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Since the RPMs seem to climb, and the speedometer drops off, is it possible the front wheel may be off the ground?  Also, the pavement was wet: maybe hydroplaning?
If it's doing this on a bone-dry road, then there may be something funny going on in the speedo drive, the cable, or the speedometer itself.  Not much else going on in there.

Doing the ton in 4th gear? Impressive.  Love the sound of that motor.
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Dude, compared to my gauges yours are rock steady.

I would be very surprised/impressed if the front wheel was lifting off the ground at that speed on this bike.  I don't think it's that.

If I had to guess, I'd say your speedo gear is slipping or there is something in the gauge that is slipping.
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shinyribs
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No,the front tire is definitely on the ground. It does it the same no matter what the road conditions are.If i ride around normal everything does just fine. But when i accelerate quickly that is when they start jumping.

Sarge,I have noticed the same things offered as you. MSD has ways of figuring out the tach,but once done it would cost $4-500 or more. I dont know,I guess they make nice handle bar decorations,though.
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That was your engine catching a breath. I also wish my speedometer was that steady.
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shinyribs
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When I had them apart to put the overlays on I cleaned the inner workings with a soft bristled sign painting brush and oiled them with light oil like I use in my air tools. It was Marvel Mystery Oil actually.Maybe yours just need a cleaning? Catching a breath,huh?
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