Misfire? Honda cb750 1972 cafe racer

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Misfire? Honda cb750 1972 cafe racer

dmythology
Hi All,

I've been slowly restoring a Honda Cb750 1972. It's been a long 3 years of learning everything soup to nuts. I finally have the bike running but now can't for the life of me figure out why it misfires - very subtly - at all RPM ranges.

Here's a run down, Engine has been rebuilt - was rebored (I think to 800cc is that correct?). I have Dyna 2000 performance coils and electronic ignition. Carbs have been cleaned, and cleanned and cleaned some more. Tank is aftermarket.  Jets are a larger size then stock. What else do you need to know?

I've hooked up timing gun and can see that with every spark plug, the light skips a beat ever so often (and can hear the pop as a result).

I've checked the plugs (these are brand new iridium NKGs) and going against online example pics of normal plug coloring, they appear good although at the very base of the plug, the coloring is a bit darker than then more tannish look in the example pics.

When on the road and running up at 4500-5500 rpm, sounds great, very smooth, but who can say if it's misfiring at this range or not? When I slow down (come off the highway) and rapidly bring throttle down to idle, there is a lot of popping. Is this normal?

I'm not a mechanic- just self-taught repair guy - which is why I might not be describing this well. However, I'm pretty sure the misfiring now isn't fatal, but its annoying and one of the bugs that I'd like to troubleshoot.

Any help would be appreciated! Many times!

Thank you,
DmythologyMy bike

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Nice looking bike.
I am kind of confused, is it missing, or backfiring? Or both?
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No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
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1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
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dmythology
It's misfiring. Definitely
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Since you have been checking for spark with the timing light, can you tell if it is doing it on all 4 cylinders, just two, or only one. The answer to this question will really help to narrow down the problem.
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Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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It's possible the pods are blocking the air bleeds on the carbs. But, since you can see it with your timing light, it's probably ignition rather than carburetion.

Did you check the rotor-to-pickup clearance on your dyna ignition?
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I would put the 8dea plugs back in, only for a bit. Tune the bike with those in instead of messing up the iridium plugs. Iridium plugs are fragile and don't take kindly to cleaning. you don't have to do this, I only say it to save you some cash since you can buy 4 copper plugs for the price of 1 iridium at most places.

Anyways, I would assume the coils, if they are dyna, have removable wires. Check these to make sure they are installed correctly and tightly. I would also check the plug caps. Make sure the ohms are not over 10000, they should be lower but we will address that later if needed.

All connections and grounds should be clean.

As shiny said, check the gap for the pickup. To far apart will cause a misfire.
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