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Starter solenoid issue

Drako750
Ok. I'm now working on my wiring. Using a wiring harness from vintagecb750.com for my '74 cb750k4. For me. Looks like I'll be chopping it up an not using a lot of the wires in it. I've looked at diagrams of the solenoid. One terminal goes to the starter motor cable coming out of the case. The other to the positive terminal of the battery. Check. What do the two wires that come out of the solenoid go to though. Most diagrams show one yellow/red wire and a green/reddish wire. First color is the dominant color. The other a stripe. I've seen one wire going to the key ignition switch. The other. Donno. But my ignition key has a plug on it that plugs into my harness. Soooo. What do I do? Any help. Better/more complete diagram pix. Something. I'm not very good at electrical things. So dumb it down for me please.
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Re: Starter solenoid issue

TOOLS1
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One wire comes from the starter button to activate it, by completing a grounded circuit. The other is "hot" to the solenoid.
TOOLS
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1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
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1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
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Re: Starter solenoid issue

Drako750
Ok. So the hot wire. What do you mean by hot. What does it connect to to make it hot?

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On Oct 3, 2014, at 8:08 PM, "TOOLS1 [via Honda CB750'S]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

One wire comes from the starter button to activate it, by completing a grounded circuit. The other is "hot" to the solenoid.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-K X 2
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)



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Drako750
This is they type of solenoid that I have. Found a picture.
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TOOLS1
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The "hot" wire has electricity coming to it from the ignition switch. The other wire goes to the starter button. When you press the starter button, it grounds the circuit, and makes the solenoid activate.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Re: Starter solenoid issue

LukeM
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OK, here's how a solenoid works:

It is essentially a large current relay, controlled by a low current coil.

Loop A, if you will, is the low current side.  It takes V+ from your battery or starter switch in this case, and connects it to one side, and the other is connected to ground.  When you connect V+ to the top, it energizes a small coil, which closes the contacts on the high current side (loop B).  When the high current contacts close, the battery connection is directly connected to the + post on the battery.  When you release the starter switch, the coil in loop A de-energizes, and a small spring opens the high current contacts.  Current is then no longer flowing along the high current side (loop B)

This is done so the 15-20 amps the starter needs isn't connected via a small current switch. If you DO connect this amount of current over such a switch, the contacts will pit out and eventually stop working.

I hope this helps.
Luke M

Used to have a 1979 CB750L, sold it as a parts bike, now riding a slightly modified 1984 VT700C. Network/Field Engineer. Central OH, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe.