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I'd like to get opinions on an idea I have been mulling over. I have ridden Bikes with 2 rear shocks, mono shocks and hardtails (ouch!!!   ), but I have never ridden a hardtail with the suspension in the seat. For the bike I'm building I'm kinda going for an older bobber/chopper look and the look of a hardtail with a spring seat is growing on me. My quandary is that this bike is going to be a daily driver, and by daily I'm talking to/from work, roadtrips, above 40 I'm riding. I just don't have any background on how well that system rides. Short rides I could go without a suspension at all, just gotta swerve those potholes, but what is y'alls opinion for the longer rides and in general?
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I like riding a hardtail with a sprung seat myself.  TOOLS
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1977 CB 750-A X 4
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1976 CB 750 F
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1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
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One vote for the seat! I love the way a hardtail looks, rear tire tucked up into the fender. The plan would be to replace the shocks with struts so if the ride was to bad I could switch back to shocks.
It's only illegal if you get caught.
If at first you don't succeed, use more lighter fluid
95% of Harley Davidsons ever made are still on the road... The other 5% made it home.
New Baltimore, Va '82 CB900c, 1980 CB985F/K 'Mutt"
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I never got around to mounting a sprung seat on my old bike. I gotta admit though, even without it, I never thought the ht was all that bad.
Twin shocks off early CB's are pretty archaic, tbh. Modern twin shocks that will actually offer great suspension will cost you a couple grand.
IMO, a sprung seat looks great and rivals the ride of 35 year old shocks anyway.
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Yeah, if I stay with shocks definitely upgrading to progressives. So that's 2 for the HT, time to see about finding someone to make some struts!
It's only illegal if you get caught.
If at first you don't succeed, use more lighter fluid
95% of Harley Davidsons ever made are still on the road... The other 5% made it home.
New Baltimore, Va '82 CB900c, 1980 CB985F/K 'Mutt"
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Make your own! Or, send me some measurements. ;)
Whatcha got in mind?
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First I need to get a fender and get it in place to see where I want it to sit. I actually know a blacksmith in the area so I was going to see if he could come up with something cool and strong enough. If not I'll give you a holler.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever made a set of trees?
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If at first you don't succeed, use more lighter fluid
95% of Harley Davidsons ever made are still on the road... The other 5% made it home.
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This post was updated on .
I haven't made any trees, but I've been looking in to it. I do know I guy that makes GORGEOUS yokes for about $200-300 a pair,though.
I did see a thread one time where I guy made a set of yokes with hole saws and a chop saw. He was shooting for big and beefy, not exactly intricate pieces, but they turned out quite nice. I'll see if I can find that.
edit: found it, but all the pic links are dead :( http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49779&page=10
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Actually I might be interested in the guy who makes them. I found a set of 45mm Goldwing legs and also a place that will make custom legs. I'm trying for that bog, beefy look for the front.
It's only illegal if you get caught.
If at first you don't succeed, use more lighter fluid
95% of Harley Davidsons ever made are still on the road... The other 5% made it home.
New Baltimore, Va '82 CB900c, 1980 CB985F/K 'Mutt"
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Are you going to rake the neck out any? Reason I ask, GL legs aren't incredibly long. A raked neck with not-very-long legs will sit awfully low. A lot of newer dirtbikes have long, extremely beefy forks. I know they'll be sprung for a lighter bike, but the angle they'll be working on makes we wonder just how much the soft springs will be affected.
Heading in to town for a bit to see about some info on my own HT project. ;)
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Depends on what I go with. If I go with the Goldwing probably not. I'm going for low over length.
It's only illegal if you get caught.
If at first you don't succeed, use more lighter fluid
95% of Harley Davidsons ever made are still on the road... The other 5% made it home.
New Baltimore, Va '82 CB900c, 1980 CB985F/K 'Mutt"
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 You could always do this. Leaf spring rear suspension.
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You know, most TRUCKS do have leaf spring suspensions. TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."
1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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That looks cool! I'm going for a sleek, clean look, hence the reason I want to ditch the shocks and tuck the tire in as close as I can inside the fender.
As for the oil tank I'm going to try and cut the top off about an 1" from the top, weld some tabs on the inside (or a band) and hold it on with some set screws.
Of course nothings getting done till I move and get everything set back up!
It's only illegal if you get caught.
If at first you don't succeed, use more lighter fluid
95% of Harley Davidsons ever made are still on the road... The other 5% made it home.
New Baltimore, Va '82 CB900c, 1980 CB985F/K 'Mutt"
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