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so im using brand new fluid and i pump and when i go to bleed all i get is liquid out, but my calipers arnt getting any tighter ? my master break dosnt have a bleed nipple, but both lines are attached to the master, normally i just pump hold and bleed, tighten, and relase and its worked ?
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Sounds like air is trapped somewhere or getting back in. Make sure your line is straight and that it keeps going up on its way to the master and that it does not dip down anywhere.
Otherwise, I do the pump method too. I apply a bit of pressure, crack the bleeder just enough to start moving fluid, pump the lever all the way, hold and close the bleeder tightly. Release and repeat. Just make sure the fluid level does not drop too far. I pump a couple times and refill. Pump slowly.
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You've got to have air somewhere...
Hydraulics work by moving an object due to being an incompressable fluid. Hence, it forces out the piston. So if your brake handle isn't tight and your caliper doesn't move, then you've got something (air) compressing that shouldn't be.
Bleed 'em! Tap the caliper to break any air bubbles up. Use a hose to keep the fluid in, and check for ANY air bubbles. ANY air bubbles = bad handle.
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Reverse bleed them with a pump type oil can, and a piece of hose. Air wants to go up, and your trying to push it down. Does not work very well when these master cylinders move, so little fluid.
TOOLS
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1977 CB 750-A X 4
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Tools is right about air not wanting to go down.If you dont have the stuff to reverse bleed them just remove your caliper and hold it above your master cylinder.Set it up on your toll box or something.That way the air will want to travel up and out.Just put something between the pads that is about the same thickness as your rotor.Maybe a file or even an old magazine will work.Yeah,a magazine is about the same thickness and wont really compress like you think it would. But reverse bleeding is best.You can have it done in about 5 minutes
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See now, I have never had this issue. Bleeding has always been simple and trouble-free for me.
I wonder, are people leaving the master cylinder cap on or off when they bleed? I leave it off and squeeze slowly. Squeezing fast agitates things and creates more, smaller bubbles which are harder to get out.
The ride IS the adventure. The destination is just to get gas!
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Are, you bleeding a completely dry system, or just a dry master cylinder?
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."
1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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A trick I learned on my dual disk KZ900.
I used a squirt ketchup bottle, like the kind you would find at a diner, filled with brake fluid and attached a hose to the spout and the other end to the bleeder on the caliper. Make sure the bottle is full and upside down, then squeeze the fluid into the caliper, up through the lines into the MC.
Keep a close eye on the level in the reservoir, and remove fluid as needed. The air bubbles should be forced up and out.
Air wants to rise to the top, so doing it this way is the path of least resistance.
1972 Honda CB750 K
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That's reverse bleeding. I did not think a squeeze bottle would have enough pressure. I'll have to remember that.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."
1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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systems is completely dry i am assuming there is no fluid in the calipers which is why im not getting any of them to close, im going to try and bleed the banjo bolt on the master cylinder first and if that dosnt work then im just going to buy a medivac and solve the issue :) thanks for the options ive never had this problem but i have also never attempted to re pressure ize a ss brake system i was wondering if it was in any way diffrent, i havent take a look at it since i first posted tho been BUSY !
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