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1979 CB750k Wire Routing

bobwilson
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Hi, I'm rebuilding a CB750K (example below, 1980 I think, maybe an F) and just getting ready to sort out the new wire routing, something a little cleaner than the original to hide everything. Are there any good photos of your builds showing some examples of wire routing?  My next step is to sandblast the frame for paint, but I'd like to drill some holes for wires if possible before paint.

- New Anitgravity battery under the tank.
- Solenoid mounted on the side of the new battery box.
- Regulator/Rect will be mounted down by the swing-arm.
- Ignition spark units under the tank.
- All new lights, switches, wires and connectors.

The triangle area is empty, no wires, air filter, battery, etc.

thanks,

bob



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Back when I used to build custom Harleys and my OCD was out of control I spent way too much time running my wiring through the frame. And those old Harleys did not have anywhere near the amount of wires that these CB 750s need just to run. Now I just run my wiring neatly and run it through heat shrink wrap. I would suggest that you go to vintageconnections.com and get one of their terminal kits with the factory style connectors and crimping tool. They work and look better then the automotive connectors you get at the autoparts.
However I would like to point out that the bike you posted a picture of is a "Show Bike" and might not even run. It is/was common to build show bikes as non functional sculptures. Often not even having internal engine parts. Since the bikes were built for show running was not of concern, and not having the heavy engine internals made the bikes that much easier to load/unload and move around.
Hiding all the electrical components under the tank does sound neat, but there is not much room between the tank and frame, especially for a battery large enough to run the electric starter (the DOHC does not have a kickstarter, only an electric starter.) You will need to cut out a lot of the inside of the tank and reshape it for clearance. This would work, but you would not have much gas capacity for riding. One area that you might consider for the battery is the area under the front of the swing arm. By using the smallest battery possible and laying it down, you might be able to hide it under there. Also, build the bike doing all the fabrication, and then take it apart for painting. You do not want to be doing fabrication on a freshly painted frame. You might want to check out Shinyribs hackjob build thread. He went through a lot of the modifications you are wanting to do on his bike.
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bobwilson
Thanks for the information and OCD humor, . I have a new fabricated battery box that fits under the tank and a shallow plate that sits under the seat for the fuse holder and relay.  The new battery is a lithium ion, 8 cell, and is less than half the size of the original with 1/3 more cranking amps. Of all the new parts purchased, that battery was the most expensive part.

There's enough room under the tank to mount the spark modules as well, so my main concern is hiding the wiring for the regulator and alternator. Most of the other wires (front lights and switches) should be able to run under the tank as well, so I'm not too far from ready, I think. I did purchase waterproof connectors, proper wire loom and wrap, but I'll definitely check out that thread you mentioned.

I'll post a few photos of the battery box, etc. later too.  Below is of a fellows bike in the UK and some of my inspiration. He has the battery under the tank too with some wires routed through the frame, but unfortunately he hasn't responded to my questions.

thanks again for the info., much appreciated.

Bob

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surfish95747
Do you have a picture of your battery box? I'd like to see that. I'm trying to think how a lithium ion battery would fit under my gas tank. I've got a 1980 cb750.
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Hi, here's a pic of the battery box.  I'd send a photo of it installed, but the computer with my bike photos isn't working right now. The box sets just in front of where the gas tank bolts to the frame, in between the down tubes.   There's also room to mount the starter switch on the front of the box (you can see a mounting hole in the front).  When it's in place it sets low enough to route the wires back towards the switch.
 
I'm hoping to have the frame finished next week, so I'll send another pic of it installed later.
 
hope it helps.
 
 
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Do you have a picture of your battery box? I'd like to see that. I'm trying to think how a lithium ion battery would fit under my gas tank. I've got a 1980 cb750.
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Is that engine photoshop'd in to that bike? I see a reflection of ground/sky/horizon ( it seems) on the clutch cover, while the tank seems to have a clear reflection of an overhead flourescent light  And the block under the sidestand look really weird. The rear brake pedal seems to float in a realistic place, yet it seems sorta superimposed over top of the pipe. And there don't appear to be any plug wires. Pretty bike, interesting picture.
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Forgot about this, but if you're still interested here's a pic of the installed battery box.



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Drove the bike this past summer. Love it. It needs an exhaust upgrade, maybe this winter.

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Jono750
Hi awesome build! I'm in the middle of a project myself.. any chance you would have any images of the reg/rec mounted by the swing arm? Thanks!
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Thanks.  I just had a look through my photos and to my surprise, not one good photo of it. I'll get a good pic of it later today for you.  It's actually a 1/8" thick plate welded to the frame with a couple of threaded M6 holes.  If you use the same method cut the plate to size, bolt it to a temporary block the size of the Rect (I used wood) and weld it in place to an angle that doesn't interfere with the swing arm travel.


Bob.



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Hi awesome build! I'm in the middle of a project myself.. any chance you would have any images of the reg/rec mounted by the swing arm? Thanks!


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Bit hard to take a pic at that angle, hope it helps.
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Very nice... Did you make that battery tray or do you have a link where you bought it? Using the same battery and want to put it in the same location. Thanks