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Sorry to hear about your bad day. The high idle sounds like a vacuum leak. This happens quite often when the carbs are removed and reinstalled on the old rubber intake boots. You might want to boil your rubber boots in a quart of water with 2 oz of winter green oil. This will soften them up. The moving with the clutch in could be the clutch out of adjustment, or a clutch disc coming apart. The oil would not have anything to do with it, however if you used an oil with friction modifiers it would make your clutch slip, not grab. As for not being able to move the bike with the front wheel turned to the right, you got me scratching.  TOOLS
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The oil you used is just fine. You do NOT want friction modifiers. It just dawned on me that sometimes when a clutch sits for a long time it can stick, making it not want to disengage. Try putting the bike in gear and rock it back and forth with the clutch lever pulled. If that does not break it free, disassemble it and clean/inspect it.
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Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."
1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Yup. This happens to my Shadow when I fire it up after a long winter. It could be avoided by pulling in the clutch lever and tying it off before winterizing, but that kind of tension on the clutch springs for that long might not be a good idea. The clutch disks operate in a LOT of oil, and if they are engaged over a period of time, the oil drips out from inbetween. Left long enough, the disks will temporarily adhere to each other. Working the clutch lever should free them up once the bike is running.
+1 on the "breaking it free" method TOOLS1 listed.
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"( with some force )"  What do you think is causing you to apply this "force?" Your clutch is sticking/dragging.
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Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."
1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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" in gear i can't push the bike anywear and even with the lever pulled in it still dosnt move as freely as in natural !"
This is because your clutch is sticking/dragging/not releasing. It is trying to turn the engine.
Do you have any slack in the throttle? You should be able to twist it about 10* before it starts to open the carbs.
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Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."
1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Then you have a vacuum leak, unless you have messed with your sync settings. But I would bet you have the very common, but no one wants to believe it vacuum leak.
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Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."
1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Gonna toss in a couple ideas. I had throttle issues and I disconnected the "push" cable. It wasn't allowing the carbs to close properly. Maybe disconnect that cable, on the off chance it isn't allowing proper operation. Just something to rule out.
The baffling reduces the sound a lot. It is the primary sound deadener in the muffler. So it is not surprising that it is a lot louder.
The bike moving sounds like the clutch is sticking or not fully disengaging. Your oil is JASO-MA certified, so it is perfectly fine for any bike. Measure how far the lever moves before the clutch starts to disengage. The end should move maybe 10mm, mine is less. If it is a larger amount than that, then you should try to adjust it before pulling it apart.
AS for the wheel issue, if you can, try switching the bearings. As in the left bearing in the right and so forth. See if the problem stays or moves.
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It's possible. I would check the clutch cable for smooth operation and that it is not frayed. I once saw a cable that ended up being frayed and it was stretching some when the lever was being pulled. Needless to say, it wasn't disengaging the clutch right. Easy way to check for that is to pull the adjuster cover off and pull the lever and see how far the cable pulls.
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Well, it can still happen, especially if it is some after market cable. Those tend to not be made as good as a honda cable is. But, the cable probably isn't the issue. Yeah, if the cable is adjusted right, then pulling the clutch out is probably in your future. If you have to pull them, measure the thickness of each plate and check for any cracks. You will need to wipe each plate well, I wouldn't use any cleaners though. After that, soak them in your oil. If you are reusing, a couple hours is fine. If you have to get new, soak them for 24 hours.
Make sure you put them back together the right way, all stamp marks should face the same direction.
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