rockyboy, does your pilot screws have the little tang on them preventing you from turning them more than 1 turn in each direction?,, if thats the case take a hacksaw blade and hold it with vise grips and cut a little angled piece off the carbs casting right where the pilot screw tang hits, it doesn,t take much, i had all mine cut in 10 minutes, then u can adjust those pilots anyway u want, mine are 2 1/2 turns out is good for my bike,,82 cb750k,,,with 4 into 1 header, stock airbox, runs great,,,hope this helps,,mykey440