1974 CB750 electrical problems...

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1974 CB750 electrical problems...

phayzr
I'm having an electrical problem on my 1974 CB750k and it wont start.

After parking the bike in the garage at my office, then returning to it in the evening, the neutral light (and headlamp) would not light up at all. The kick start failed to start the bike as well.

After hooking the battery up to a car's battery via jumper cables, the neutral light came on, but the battery does not seem to charge. While revving the car's engine, I can get enough juice to try and turn over the bike, but it doesnt seem to be enough to fire, or maybe not enough to spark...

After disconnecting the battery from the jumpers, the neutral light will no longer light up at all...

I've checked the main fuse, as well as the other 2, and they are all intact.
I'll replace the battery today on my lunch break, but I've been told by 2 mechanic friends that that wont solve the problem.


Any ideas?
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Re: 1974 CB750 electrical problems...

LukeM
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When using a car to jump start a motorcycle, do NOT have the engine running.  It's not uncommon for a car alternator to put out more amps than the motorcycle can handle.  The biggest fuse on the bike is typically 20-25A, and the battery itself is usually rated for 15A as well.

Do any of the "dash" lights come on when you turn the key on? You should see the oil light come on, and go off once the oil pressure comes up enough to close the pressure switch.

If it won't start when connected to a fully charged car battery, it's time to check out all the systems: starter circuit (will the starter spin freely when disconnected from the engine?), charging circuit (needs to be checked once you get the bike running), ignition system (any spark from the plugs when you crank the engine?), fuel system (will it sputter when you add a VERY small amount of starting fluid at the air box?). Make sure battery and ground connections are nice and clean and good and snug when tightened down.  Any corrosion will just take power from the circuits that need it.

Find a good schematic of your bike, and trace down as much as you can find.  On these bikes, there's usually one chassis ground.  IIRC, it's a pretty good sized green wire that bolts to the frame near the seat.  Your bike may be a bit different, but there's enough SOHC riders on this forum who can help with your particular bike.

I hope this helps.  Reply with some updates.
Luke M
Used to have a 1979 CB750L, sold it as a parts bike, now riding a slightly modified 1984 VT700C. Network/Field Engineer. Central OH, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe.
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phayzr
The dash lights do not come on at all unless hooked up to a car battery.
The guy I bought it from just picked it up from ym office to take it home and get it up and running for me!
Thanks for the help! Ill save this email incase anythign else goes wrong!


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Subject: Re: 1974 CB750 electrical problems...

When using a car to jump start a motorcycle, do NOT have the engine running.  It's not uncommon for a car alternator to put out more amps than the motorcycle can handle.  The biggest fuse on the bike is typically 20-25A, and the battery itself is usually rated for 15A as well.

Do any of the "dash" lights come on when you turn the key on? You should see the oil light come on, and go off once the oil pressure comes up enough to close the pressure switch.

If it won't start when connected to a fully charged car battery, it's time to check out all the systems: starter circuit (will the starter spin freely when disconnected from the engine?), charging circuit (needs to be checked once you get the bike running), ignition system (any spark from the plugs when you crank the engine?), fuel system (will it sputter when you add a VERY small amount of starting fluid at the air box?). Make sure battery and ground connections are nice and clean and good and snug when tightened down.  Any corrosion will just take power from the circuits that need it.

Find a good schematic of your bike, and trace down as much as you can find.  On these bikes, there's usually one chassis ground.  IIRC, it's a pretty good sized green wire that bolts to the frame near the seat.  Your bike may be a bit different, but there's enough SOHC riders on this forum who can help with your particular bike.

I hope this helps.  Reply with some updates.
Luke M
Back on 2 wheels after a 30+ year break. It's still fun, and just as scary as before.  I like it.



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dave Esch
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The battery ground will come out under your left butt cheek. Mine is black, but just under the seat on the outside of the frame, you can't miss it. As I have stated before, my main fuse blew but looked perfectly fine. In fact, I overlooked it since I didn't see a break. And I was on the side of the freeway. If you have an ohmmeter, check resistance across your fuses as well.
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Re: 1974 CB750 electrical problems...

Rod Smith
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If you dont get any power without jumping it your battery is shot.  If you have changed the battery and still have the problem then you may have a bad fuse.  If you have changed these things and still have a problem you put your ohms tester to use and check your wiring one at a time to check for a short.  You can get free info from Hondachopper.com  Good luck and ride safe.