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Carb Disassembley

samir_nayanajaad
I was back home for a bit, not long enough to do anything with my bike, but I did bring back the carbs with me.  I'm going to be taking them apart to clean and familiarize myself with them.  I plan on reading through the service manual but is there anything (gasket, seal, random tiny parts) that are one time use only?

I don't have a rebuild kit or any new parts to put in and I don't want to have these things in a million pieces and cant put it back together because some gasket can't be reused.

Also, as this is mostly a learning exercise for myself I was wondering if there any people that could benefit from a write up with pics as I take them apart?  I haven't looked to see whats out there just yet (I like diving in head first then if i get stuck look it up) but I'm going to be taking lots of pics for my own use and if I can help out someone let me know.  
Why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to god one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
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I had the same concerns with mine. I don't know which carbs you have.Mine are the round tops.The top of it screws off by hand,there is a rubber gasket there.Mine did not stick at all.Beings that is an air only area(no gas) i don't think you will have a problem there.Might wanna be careful with the fuel bowl gaskets.Mine were slightly stuck,but came off intact easily enough.Those are the only two gaskets on the round top models that you will see.The little o-rings in between the carbs,the T-type joints,that feed fuel from one carb to another seem to come apart ok,just lube them uo to get them back together without pinching them.Easily replaced at a local hardware store if anything should happen.I would probably put those in new for good measure,regardless.I used PB blaster on my o-rings with good results,plan on replacing with new soon,though.The only really sensitive part that i came into was the debris screen on the needle seat.It  will slide off of the brass body of the needle seat,so you can clean it (brass) fully,but they are plastic and you know what gas does to plastic.I've only done one set of carbs,mine of course,and everything was real easy to work with.One thing i would recommend is to be careful with the floats.Try not to twist or bend them as they are fairly fragile.Also the two long legs that the floats hinge on are pretty long and skinny.If the pin is stuck don't get carried away beating on them as i would imagine they could be broken off fairly easily,rendering that carb useless. For the most part,these things are well built and pretty tough.Proceed with a little caution,typical amount of common sense and you will be just fine.If anything should happen all the floats and gaskets ARE readily available,so don't stress too much.Like i said before,i am talking about round top carbs.If you have keyholes i am clueless on those.Enjoy your hands smelling like stale gas for the next few days.Good luck and have fun!!!
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Piute
You'd the man Shinyribs,His carbs SHould be the same as your do to the fact it is the same year engine,carbs are bottle caps.Good Idea to carry / take with you ,keep reading up you'll get that water beast going l.o.l..get most the water out by now.?...Piute...
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Well done young grasshopper I would add, Be very careful removing the main jet. The carbs tend to crack there.
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See samir...no mater what...don't proceed until you consult Tools
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samir_nayanajaad
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Sadly I got side tracked by the UPS man delivering me new computer parts and Ive been building a computer for the last few hours.  Its mostly done (might have to file down a heat sink its blocking a plug) and now Im going to start with the carbs.

I think my dad said these carbs were not the original ones, those got thrashed in the flood.  Here is a pic to help you guys identify what Im working with.  



I think they are the round top ones you were talking about shinyribs but I'd like to know for sure.  I have never messed with a carb before so when you say things like needle seat and main jets, though I know the gist of what they do I have no mental picture of what they look like or how they function.  All part of this tear down though

Thanks for all the help guys.

Why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to god one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
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They are the round tops.Same exacts setup as mine.If you build a 'puter i know you can do carbs  I like The Worx toilet bowl cleaner for cleaner.1 part worx to 4 part water.Use seperate dish with straight worx for BRASS ONLY. Dip the main bodies for 20-30 seconds at a time then rinse immiedately with clean water.DO NOT USE ON OUTSIDE OF BOWLS AS IT WILL TURN THEM BLACK!!!!Dip and rins,dip and rinse....Cleans fast,you'll be done in no time.Just dont let anything sit for more than 30 seconds at a time.The brass can soak at full strength all day,will never hurt it.
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samir_nayanajaad
PC's are nothing all you need is a #2 philips and be able to put a square peg in a square hole, round peg in a round hole and your good.  

Also is there any need for me to separate the carbs from the bracket that holds them all? it looks like I can take it all apart with all 4 still bolted to that bracket.
Why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to god one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
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You could clean them while still on the rack, but, you can do a much better job if they are off it. Be sure to run a small wire through the little holes, and blow with air.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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shinyribs
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samir_nayanajaad wrote
PC's are nothing all you need is a #2 philips and be able to put a square peg in a square hole, round peg in a round hole and your good.  
HAHA  Says you!  Man,i still have to get my gf to come over and help me just USE my 'puter.  As far as the rack,the pop right off of there and you would need an awfully big tub to soak all 4 at once.Also,with all 4 in a row like that it will be pretty difficult to drive the float pins out,IF they need driving,half of mine just slid out.When i took mine off the rack i hooked zip-ties to each one.Each zip-tie was a different color and made a note so i would get each one back in the right place.
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samir_nayanajaad
Good idea with the zip ties, think im just going to do one at a time though.  I haven't been able to touch the carbs because of that computer.  Putting them together is easy, working out Windows 7 install, drivers and other software eats up so much time.
Why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to god one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
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TOOLS1
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Just install Linux, UBUNTU, and be done with it.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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samir_nayanajaad
I would go that route but no DirectX means no video games, thats no good.  Got to shoot me some zombies!
Why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to god one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
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shinyribs
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Well Samir,i will sleep better knowing that you got all the zombies under control.If you need any help call Tools,He has all the arsenal around here
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TOOLS1
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Shooting computer monitors is FUN They smoke, for 20 minutes.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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shinyribs
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What?!   i mean...WHAT!?!? Are you ok man?
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TOOLS1
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Whats more fun then shooting a computer monitor is Tannerite in a major household appliance
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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shinyribs
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I'd love to get my hands on some tannerite.I bet it is expensive
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samir_nayanajaad
It is indeed fun and here is their site shinnyribs, totally legal to own ship and blow up.

http://www.tannerite.com/shop/category/exploding-rifle-targets/
Why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to god one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
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TOOLS1
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And good, for disposing of unwanted major household appliances
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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