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Jonny Imperial
ok. I just picked up a early K2 (8/71 build date). The fork seals are shot, the tubes are super crusty. Can i replace the tubes with a later model tubes w/out all the internal parts?.......or do I need to replace the lowers as well with the newer style fork tubes? I would prefer to stick with the original lowers, but it seems to be hard to find k2 and earlier fork tubes.

I have searched the forum and nothing I found completely answers my question.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give in this area.
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shinyribs
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I am almost positive that you can swap the sliders,the chromed inner parts,out with no problem. They all have basically the same forks so I cant see where it would be an issue. I have never done it personally ,though. When you look at the application chart on fork seals there are some differences. I would say if you stay with these year models for the seal that you should be okay.


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TOOLS1
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They will change right over. Take the old ones out. Put the new ones in.
TOOLS
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1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
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1976 CB 750 F
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1973 CB 350
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1982 Honda XL 80
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Jonny Imperial
Thanks for the help. The old style tubes are a P.I.T.A. with all the clips and junk, and seem to be quite a bit more costly and difficult to come by. I have seals that came in a box of misc. parts when I bought the bike, but upon removing the front end I found the tubes to be beyond salvage....the lowers are pristine. This is my first extensive CB build, so I really appreciate the help.
Now, does anyone have any good fork tubes for sale? :)
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Jonny Imperial
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TOOLS1 wrote
They will change right over. Take the old ones out. Put the new ones in.
TOOLS
hey Tools, Are you talking about the seals or the actual tube? I have seals that work, what I need is the upper tubes. Those aren't interchangeable, are they?
to be more clear, I can't put the K3 and newer style upper tubes in the K0-K2 style lower legs, can I?

Maybe I am over thinking this.

Hows about I just ask, What is the best way to go about rebuilding my K0-K2 style front forks with new upper tubes?
I did find a new set of tubes for about $250.00, way more than I want to spend, but I might have to make it work.
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TOOLS1
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You can use both the seals, and the tubes from a 73+ bike in your 72 sliders. Stock Honda tubes in good shape are scarce as hen's teeth. Good luck finding a set. There is a guy on the Kansas City craigslist with a set, but they are rusty under the headlight ears.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Jonny Imperial
Thank you! Then I guess the best plan is going to be saving up my pennies for new tubes. I have had to buy less fun things.
I appreciate the information, it's good to know for the future.
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If you have a hard time finding tubes, forking by frank is a good place to go. Not cheap but not SUPER expensive. Last I knew, a set of forks would run 250 or so, but these are brand new forks made for your bike. So really, quite a deal when you think about it. You don't have to worry about pits or rusting, no question in bent forks. Also considering that many sites charge almost as much for 1 and the 250 gets you both.
The ride IS the adventure. The destination is just to get gas!
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Jonny Imperial
I just sent them a message asking for a quote.

I found a set on ebay new for about 250.00+ 20.00 shipped. So, depending on what I hear from Franks I will be getting new ones from one place or the other.
this will probably be the single most expensive part I will need for this bike to get it going, the rest is nickle and dime stuff that I can do over time.

Thankfully, I enjoy every minute of it!!
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Cycle X  149 set http://www.cyclexchange.net/Frame%20Page.htm

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Re-run [via Honda CB750'S] <[hidden email]> wrote:
If you have a hard time finding tubes, forking by frank is a good place to go. Not cheap but not SUPER expensive. Last I knew, a set of forks would run 250 or so, but these are brand new forks made for your bike. So really, quite a deal when you think about it. You don't have to worry about pits or rusting, no question in bent forks. Also considering that many sites charge almost as much for 1 and the 250 gets you both.
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Unfortunately, the ones they have listed at CycleX are for the later 73-78 Honda cb750's. The early "72's and earlier are a bit different.
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Ahaaaaa

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Unfortunately, the ones they have listed at CycleX are for the later 73-78 Honda cb750's. The early "72's and earlier are a bit different.
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Jonny Imperial
Though Tools say's the tubes are interchangeable, and from what I have seen around the forum, he knows a thing or two about some stuff.  
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Jonny Imperial
Going to check these out in an hour or so. $30. Even if they aren't what I am looking for exactly, I'll take 'em.
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Jonny Imperial
forgot the link in my excitement.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/mcy/2914180607.html
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I want the wheel, and fender if, you don't. That is a very good deal!!!!!!! Also I have used forks from Frank. they are top notch items!! As, for the difference in the 69-72, and the 73-78. The tubes will interchange on the sliders, but, you need to use the appropriate tube guts. As long as, you get the new tubes complete with the dampers there is no problem.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Jonny Imperial
They are yours Tools, if I don't need/want them. I'll let you know.
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Jonny Imperial
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Tools. here's what i got. I will likely keep the wheel as it's in much better shape than the one i have. the fender has a large dent. The wheel has some writing on it (DID, some #s, and made in japan). It has caliper mounting brackets, and that plastic rotor shield.
Will my old caliper mount to these forks with the bracket? If I use these tubes (which look near new) in my old lower sliders which spec do I follow for oil level?
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Yes your caliper will work using that bracket. where is the dent, and how bad is it? I might still be interested if it is in better shape then the one I have.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
I like vintage bikes because they take me away from the clutter of technology that I work with everyday and back to a simpler time of mechanical elegance and simplicity.. "ninadm"
Darkwing Duck: The worst part of public transportation is the Public.
"That is awesome shit there" Re-Run
"Fear nothing, attack everything" Eric Berry
" Oh, you read that on the internet? Clearly it IS a massive problem. Of course it CAN’t be normal operation."

1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 4
1977 CB 750-K
1976 CB 750 F
1981 CB 750
1966 Kawasaki SG 250
1981 KZ 750 LTD
1973 CB 350
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1982 Honda XL 80
South of Eden (Kansas City MO)
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Jonny Imperial
I'll take some better pictures tomorrow when I'll get better light. I think it's pretty bad, but I'll let you decide. You could have it, just pay shipping. :) 

Jon Wickham


On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:22 PM, "TOOLS1 [via Honda CB750'S]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes your caliper will work using that bracket. where is the dent, and how bad is it? I might still be interested if it is in better shape then the one I have.
TOOLS
Life is not about the number of breaths, you take, but the moments that take your breath away.
I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem. Hank Hill
Never confuse education for intelligence.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
I just can't imagine what could go wrong.
No fire? No explosions? So whats the point of your story?
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
It couldn't be done, but the darn fool didn't know it, and did it anyway.
We all got problems. Ksharp
1976 CB 750-A X 2
1977 CB 750-A X 2
1981 CB 750
1995 KZ 1000 P-14
1981 KZ 750 LTD X 2
1974 CB 350 Four
1979 CM 185 Twinstar
1987 Honda TLR 200
197? Yamaha DT 100
1982 Honda XL 80
2005 Yamaha PW 50
South of Edan (Kansas City MO)



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